tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post5990554064047657655..comments2024-03-25T11:09:41.538-04:00Comments on a minor friar blog: SpeechBrother Charleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07780326836452864455noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post-10949300467254908832009-08-05T14:33:20.956-04:002009-08-05T14:33:20.956-04:00Not sure if this contributes to the discussion, bu...Not sure if this contributes to the discussion, but I thought the Rule of St Benedict would be helpful:<br /><br />The ninth degree of humility is that a monk restrain his tongue and keep silence, not speaking until he is questioned. For the Scripture shows that "in much speaking there is no escape from sin" (Prov. 10:19) and that "the talkative man is not stable on the earth" (Ps. 13[14]9:12).<br /><br />There may be something from the Franciscan patrimony of equal insight but in case there is not, the RB may assist. Peace!Paul A. Zalonskihttp://communio.stblogs.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post-6283494798739018732009-08-04T21:33:22.128-04:002009-08-04T21:33:22.128-04:00Fantastic post, Father.
Even without sinning whil...Fantastic post, Father.<br /><br />Even without sinning while talking (gossiping, lying, etc.), I know I can fall into simply being immoderate in speech - talking when silence would be best. <br /><br />A lot of people my age (I'm 20) have almost no silence in their lives. Most people I know make cell phone calls while walking to classes because they can't stand those few minutes without stimulation. Why can't we remain silent for the ten minute walk to class? <br /><br />Same problem with media (TV, computer, etc.). Why can't we enjoy time quietly loving God, without giving ourselves these distractions? I know I am guilty of this.<br /><br /><br />(Sorry for the mini-rant. Perhaps this is an example of being immoderate with language!)Julianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post-35823502470330903832009-08-04T19:02:34.925-04:002009-08-04T19:02:34.925-04:00One of the definitions of ’to gossip’ is ‘to chat....One of the definitions of ’to gossip’ is ‘to chat.’ Generally, an added adjective, such as ‘idle’ or ‘evil,’ with ‘gossip’ is when there’s trouble…<br />I’m partial to Luke 2:19 and translations that use the word ‘treasure’ with all the nuances of the word – a reminder to value life experiences and also to weigh carefully my thoughts before speaking or writing them.<br />Thank you for the additional points of view and scripture references on this topic.timhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06062778573544803680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post-74262446410243475822009-08-04T16:30:24.921-04:002009-08-04T16:30:24.921-04:00Would you believe I didn't know what those wor...Would you believe I didn't know what those words meant, and that they were even sinful? This is from a graduate of Catholic grade school and college. I knew that gossip was sinful and lying, but not the rest. Wow. Thanks for defining it and bringing this to light.Jeannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217797935437208044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post-48260586167048187272009-08-04T13:14:20.621-04:002009-08-04T13:14:20.621-04:00Calumny is false information, while detraction is ...Calumny is false information, while detraction is true information that does not need to be known.Brother Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07780326836452864455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post-8825533249863408112009-08-04T13:13:11.924-04:002009-08-04T13:13:11.924-04:00Now these are my working definitions, subject to n...Now these are my working definitions, subject to nuance and correction.<br /><br />Gossip is semi-private speech between two more more parties, peers on some level, on the subject of a third party. It is often sinful and at least distracting, but has also been shown to serve some genuine purposes, particularly in close or hierarchical living and working arrangements (like religious life!)<br /><br />Check out <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/16/science/16goss.html" rel="nofollow">this article from the New York Times Science page</a><br /><br />Calumny is when we spread information about a third party that is false and negative.<br /><br />Detraction is when you reveal a sin or something else hurtful to the reputation of a third party for no reason, i.e. the person being told doesn't need to know.Brother Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07780326836452864455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post-586600009408009742009-08-04T12:47:58.849-04:002009-08-04T12:47:58.849-04:00Father, would you mind terribly discussing the dif...Father, would you mind terribly discussing the difference between gossip and detraction, and detraction and calumny? Thank you.carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11331034984608859225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26883902.post-47911232107470190482009-08-04T12:16:04.009-04:002009-08-04T12:16:04.009-04:00My grandmother used to admonish us children contin...My grandmother used to admonish us children continuously: "If you feel like opening your mouths to talk hurt or rubbish, open them instead to sing praise to Our Lord!" :)Gabriellahttp://gabriella50.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com